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   * Open [[JedIt]] page, click "Rename Page" on the left, select *jEdit* as new name and try to save. Note that there is no [[jEdit]] page. This bug previously occurred with attempt to rename Vim page. -- [[techtonik]] <<DateTime(2010-03-15T17:54:32Z)>>

This page collects suggestions for improving the python.org web site.


improving means enhancing site user's experience to find information faster and easier using the way they've used to. Major things that need improvement are usually obvious for everybody, but they seem Epic (Single Sign On, OpenID, online docs editor). Minor features are on the surface for each of us in particular, but they are not obvious for everyone else (wiki page subscription on edit, boring design).

improving is a process. Key to make any process effective is to provide a feedback that should be easy to reach and visible to others (see PHP online manual comments).

A lot of information causes frustration. That's why twitter takes over blogger. Too much inventory in the room makes it hard to navigate and hard to notice needed things. cleanup should throw unused stuff from standing in the way. It's especially true for wiki, but various python.org pages are accounted as well. Big amount of information reduces fun factor. Separate status page will help people see what's going on and have more fun by focusing their work and working together.




  • Add autolinking to python tracker, e.g. issue #1024, issue 1024, issue1024, bug 1024 and bug #123
    • (./) Added to InterWikiMap as Issue. For example: 7942 in the tracker. -- PaulBoddie 2010-03-15 15:32:26

    • Even though natural syntax would be more welcomed this is a nice helper. Are there any side effects if the prefix is added lowercased? Seems like is still not possible for it to show word "issue" automatically. -- techtonik 2010-03-15 16:47:59

    • I'm just following the InterWiki conventions, really. I'm sure I should use PythonIssue:xxx instead, but I suppose Issue:xxx is unlikely to be used by accident. As for the prefix, it's only included in the title for the icon, I think. And as for autolinking, I think that would require a parser extension or modification. I'd personally be comfortable with a macro (like <<PythonIssue(xxx)>>), but then people would need to know how to use it, and it wouldn't obviously be natural to write. -- PaulBoddie 2010-03-15 16:56:18

  • Clean up Community/Python Writers page, above all: remove dead links
  • Upgrade the Python theme to the one used by the EuroPython Wiki site.

  • Shorten URLs - remove /moin/ prefix from http://wiki.python.org/moin/SiteImprovements#Wiki

  • Add "automatically subscribe to pages I edit" plugin from http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinPatch/AutomaticSubscriptionOnEditPreference to increase people awareness about changes going on on the wiki.

  • Fix bug can't rename the page (A page with the name 'xxx' already exists. Try a different name.)

    • Can you give a walk-through of how to reproduce this? -- PaulBoddie 2010-03-15 15:44:04

    • Open JedIt page, click "Rename Page" on the left, select *jEdit* as new name and try to save. Note that there is no jEdit page. This bug previously occurred with attempt to rename Vim page. -- techtonik 2010-03-15 17:54:32

  • Fix bug with PythonAroundTheWorld not appearing in CategoryAroundTheWorld (may have something to do with http://moinmo.in/HelpOnCategories).

  • Fix bug Admin/Wiki doesn't appear in CategoryPythonWebsite list

  • Update wiki SystemInfo to latest version

  • Remove annoying "captcha" for sane users who logged in
    • This just needs the feature to be configured properly. Then a system is required to add people to the exempt users list after their intentions have been verified. -- PaulBoddie 2010-03-15 15:44:04

  • Update oldschool page icons to a more hardcore/pop version. (Fixed in an upgraded theme.)

  • Remove rarely used links in Wiki menu in the left.
  • Add improved event calendar support such as that provided by EventAggregator or another similar extension.

  • Enable the OpenID support.
  • Rationalise the natural language coverage (merging the "new" language pages with the old ones).
  • Switch to TracWiki syntax

    • Why? Trac's syntax, apart from the stuff that's identical to MoinMoin's syntax, is like the old MoinMoin syntax, and although it's better than MediaWiki syntax in various ways (take the link syntax and its inconsistencies), switching to it would be like reverting a number of fixes that MoinMoin applied when its syntax (particularly the link syntax) was changed in 1.6. I don't deny that bits of it can be complicated, but that's not usually the basic stuff. -- PaulBoddie 2010-03-15 15:32:26

    • Using Trac for various Python (and not only Python) I got used to separate [http://links with description using space] - as it is more readable. I can't see where [LinkPattern link syntax] will conflict with anything. Anyway it is the last point in this list. -- techtonik 2010-03-15 17:27:00


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