Nov 11th, 2020

Participants:

• Georgia Bullen
• Pradyun Gedam
• Bernard Tyers
• Sumana Harihareswara

Agenda:

• status and blockers
  • Georgia: we're working our way through analysis of diff. surveys, the "buy a feature"
    • we have pulled together a meeting to swap notes re: workshops for FLOSS developers to plan
    • no known blockers
    • prediction: high likelihood of submission today
  • Nicole: pushed out documentation survey and is doing interviews on that
    • no known blockers
  • Bernard: no real blockers. Working on the report

    • pip backtracking message PR - probably finished https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/9040

      • TODO: Sumana to re-review
    • about to start: trying to get in touch with package manager maintainers, so, is changing approach to "pip in pckg mngr ecosystem" and will talk to users instead
      • TODO: Sumana to ping William Woodruff and ask him for an hour of Bernard's time
      • TODO: Sumana to ping people who run package managers that interact/interoperate/conflict with pip stuff
        • aptitude (Debian/Ubuntu)
        • (ana)conda - done 17 Nov
        • brew/homebrew - done 17 Nov
        • dnf (Fedora)

        • pacman [used in Manjaro Linux distro] (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/pacman)

          • TODO: Sumana to ping Santiago from Arch - done 17 Nov
      • There are some other package managers where we could learn from their experience/UX/functionality
        • I've not spoken to them but: cargo (from research people have mentioned it's nice)

        • ruby, bundler (https://bundler.io/)

• invoices
  • Gedam has been requested to do so
• issues that need followup

  • https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/9011

    • depends on resolvelib (Carry all incompatibilities during backtracking -- #60)
    • next: Pradyun will do some test writing

  • https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/8785

    • New resolver: Failure despite correct version numbers, when extras and already-installed package are encountered together
    • next: Pradyun to do deep investigative dive
• pip 20.3 release
  • Release blockers/things we need to do first [basically all Pradyun]: (PG: wheeeeeeee)
    • 7744 -- small, needs implementation.
    • 9011 -- needs a test.
    • 9040 -- needs re-review and merge.
    • 8785 -- needs a deeper dive.
    • 8495 -- needs implementation.
  • people offer help - what would be most effective is some virtual coworking time
    • Bernard is free to do this all Thurs, plus Fri morning
    • TODO: This time tomorrow would be ideal!