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This page has been consolidated into PEP 3000; the PEP is more up-to-date
and is actively maintained. [[#e 5]]
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* Reduce feature duplication:
  - string module vs. string methods
  - xrange() vs range()
  - int vs. long
  - 8 bit vs. Unicode strings
  - map/filter vs. list comprehensions
  - lambda vs. def
* Library reorganization
* Return iterators instead of lists
  - d.keys(), .values(), .items()
  - range(), zip(), map(), filter()
* Consume iterators
  - min(), max()
* Optional static typing?
* Support only new-style classes; classic classes will be gone.
(Another list is at PythonThreeDotOh, but it incorporates items that GvR has never talked about.)
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== Core Language Changes ==

 * Remove distinction between `int` and `long` types. [[#a 4]]
 * Make all strings unicode, and have a separate bytes type. [[#a 2]] [[#a 4]]
 * Replace all old-style classes. [[#a 4]]
 * Make the `exec` statement a function (again.) [[#a 1]]
 * Make the `print` statement a function. (`write(x,y,z), writeln(x,y,z)`) [[#a 1]]
 * Do something so you can catch multiple exceptions using `except E1, E2, E3:`. Perhaps use `except E1, E2, E3 as err:` if you want the error variable. (Added by GvR, suggested by Bram Cohen.)
 * Add a `with` statement: {{{
with self:
    .foo = [1, 2, 3]
    .bar(4, .foo)
}}}

 * Remove {{{`x`}}}. [[#a 1]]
   Alternatively: use `repr(x)`.

   Reasoning: backticks are hard to read in many fonts and can be mangled by typesetting software.
 * Remove the `lambda` statement. [[#a 1]] [[#a 4]]
   Alternatively: use a local function.

   Reasoning: `lambda` supports only one statement.
 * Remove support for string exceptions. [[#a 1]]
   Alternatively: use a class.
 * Perhaps have optional declarations for static typing.
  * One suggestion is to [http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2004-February/042795.html use an "as" keyword for this] and for adaptation ([http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0246.html PEP 246]): {{{
"x as y" means: adapt x to the y protocol

def foo (a as int, b as float) as float:
    a2 = a as float # same as: adapt(a,float)
    ...
}}}

== Built-In Changes ==

 * Have `range()`, `zip()`, `dict.keys()`, `dict.items()`, and `dict.values()` return iterators.
 * Move `compile()`, `intern()` and `id()` to the `sys` module. [[#a 1]]
 * Change `max()` and `min()` to consume iterators.

 * Remove `dict.iteritems()`, `dict.iterkeys()`, and `dict.itervalues()`.
   Alternatively: use `dict.items()`, `dict.keys()`, and `dict.values()` respectively.
 * Remove `apply()`. [[#a 1]]
   Alternatively: use `f(*args, **kw)`.
 * Remove `xrange()`. [[#a 1]] [[#a 4]]
   Alternatively: use `range()`.
 * Remove `map()` and `filter()`. [[#a 1]] [[#a 4]]
   Alternatively: use list comprehensions.
 * Remove `coerce()` as it is obsolete. [[#a 1]]
 * Remove `reduce()`. [[#a 1]]
   Alternatively: use a loop.
 * Remove `callable()`. [[#a 1]]
   Alternatively: catch the exception.
 * Remove `buffer()`. [[#a 1]] [[#a 2]]
   Alternatively: use new `bytes` type.
 * Remove `raw_input()`. [[#a 1]]
   Alternatively: use `sys.stdin.readline()`.
 * Remove `input()`. [[#a 1]]
   Alternatively: use `eval(sys.stdin.readline())`.
 * Remove `execfile()` and `reload()`. [[#a 1]]
   Alternatively: use `exec()`.

== Standard Library Changes ==

 * Remove `string` module. [[#c 4]]
   Alternatively: use string methods.
 * Remove other deprecated modules. [[#c 3]]
 * Remove `sys.exc_type`. [[#a 1]]
   Alternatively: use `sys.exc_info`.

   Reasoning: it is not thread safe.

== Unresolved Issues ==

 * `L += x` and `L.extend(x)` are equivalent.
 * Can the order of parameter of the `insert` method be changed so the the index parameter is optional and `list.append` can be removed?
 * What is the status of the `<>` operator? Answer: it's dead. (GvR)

== References ==

 * [[Anchor(a)]] [1] Python Regrets: http://www.python.org/doc/essays/ppt/regrets/PythonRegrets.pdf
 * [[Anchor(b)]] [2] PEP 296 -- Adding a bytes Object Type: http://python.org/peps/pep-0296.html
 * [[Anchor(c)]] [3] PEP 4 -- Deprecation of Standard Modules: http://python.org/peps/pep-0004.html
 * [[Anchor(d)]] [4] PyCon 2003 State of the Union Address: http://www.python.org/doc/essays/ppt/pycon2003/pycon2003.ppt
 * [[Anchor(e)]] [5] PEP 3000 -- Python 3.0 Plans: http://python.org/peps/pep-3000.html

This page lists features that GvR has mentioned as goals for Python 3.0. This page has been consolidated into PEP 3000; the PEP is more up-to-date and is actively maintained. #e 5

(Another list is at PythonThreeDotOh, but it incorporates items that GvR has never talked about.)

Core Language Changes

  • Remove distinction between int and long types. #a 4

  • Make all strings unicode, and have a separate bytes type. #a 2 #a 4

  • Replace all old-style classes. #a 4

  • Make the exec statement a function (again.) #a 1

  • Make the print statement a function. (write(x,y,z), writeln(x,y,z)) #a 1

  • Do something so you can catch multiple exceptions using except E1, E2, E3:. Perhaps use except E1, E2, E3 as err: if you want the error variable. (Added by GvR, suggested by Bram Cohen.)

  • Add a with statement:

    with self:
        .foo = [1, 2, 3]
        .bar(4, .foo)
  • Remove `x`. #a 1

    • Alternatively: use repr(x). Reasoning: backticks are hard to read in many fonts and can be mangled by typesetting software.

  • Remove the lambda statement. #a 1 #a 4

    • Alternatively: use a local function.

      Reasoning: lambda supports only one statement.

  • Remove support for string exceptions. #a 1

    • Alternatively: use a class.
  • Perhaps have optional declarations for static typing.

Built-In Changes

  • Have range(), zip(), dict.keys(), dict.items(), and dict.values() return iterators.

  • Move compile(), intern() and id() to the sys module. #a 1

  • Change max() and min() to consume iterators.

  • Remove dict.iteritems(), dict.iterkeys(), and dict.itervalues().

    • Alternatively: use dict.items(), dict.keys(), and dict.values() respectively.

  • Remove apply(). #a 1

    • Alternatively: use f(*args, **kw).

  • Remove xrange(). #a 1 #a 4

    • Alternatively: use range().

  • Remove map() and filter(). #a 1 #a 4

    • Alternatively: use list comprehensions.
  • Remove coerce() as it is obsolete. #a 1

  • Remove reduce(). #a 1

    • Alternatively: use a loop.
  • Remove callable(). #a 1

    • Alternatively: catch the exception.
  • Remove buffer(). #a 1 #a 2

    • Alternatively: use new bytes type.

  • Remove raw_input(). #a 1

    • Alternatively: use sys.stdin.readline().

  • Remove input(). #a 1

    • Alternatively: use eval(sys.stdin.readline()).

  • Remove execfile() and reload(). #a 1

    • Alternatively: use exec().

Standard Library Changes

  • Remove string module. #c 4

    • Alternatively: use string methods.
  • Remove other deprecated modules. #c 3

  • Remove sys.exc_type. #a 1

    • Alternatively: use sys.exc_info. Reasoning: it is not thread safe.

Unresolved Issues

  • L += x and L.extend(x) are equivalent.

  • Can the order of parameter of the insert method be changed so the the index parameter is optional and list.append can be removed?

  • What is the status of the <> operator? Answer: it's dead. (GvR)

References

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