Nov 11th, 2020

Participants:
	* Georgia Bullen
	* Pradyun Gedam
	* Bernard Tyers
	* Sumana Harihareswara

Agenda:
	* status and blockers
		* Georgia: we're working our way through analysis of diff. surveys, the "buy a feature" 
			* we have pulled together a meeting to swap notes re: workshops for FLOSS developers to plan
			* no known blockers
			* prediction: high likelihood of submission today
		* Nicole: pushed out documentation survey and is doing interviews on that
			* no known blockers
		* Bernard: no real blockers. Working on the report
			* pip backtracking message PR - probably finished https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/9040
				* TODO: Sumana to re-review
			* about to start: trying to get in touch with package manager maintainers, so, is changing approach to "pip in pckg mngr ecosystem" and will talk to users instead
				* TODO: Sumana to ping William Woodruff and ask him for an hour of Bernard's time
				* TODO: Sumana to ping people who run package managers that interact/interoperate/conflict with pip stuff
					* aptitude (Debian/Ubuntu)
					* (ana)conda - done 17 Nov
					* brew/homebrew - done 17 Nov
					* dnf (Fedora)
					* pacman [used in Manjaro Linux distro] (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/pacman)
						* TODO: Sumana to ping Santiago from Arch - done 17 Nov
				* There are some other package managers where we could learn from their experience/UX/functionality
					* I've not spoken to them but: cargo (from research people have mentioned it's nice)
					* ruby, bundler (https://bundler.io/)
	* invoices
		* Gedam has been requested to do so
	* issues that need followup
		* https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/9011
			* depends on resolvelib (Carry all incompatibilities during backtracking -- #60)
			* next: Pradyun will do some test writing
		* https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/8785
			* New resolver: Failure despite correct version numbers, when extras and already-installed package are encountered together 
			* next: Pradyun to do deep investigative dive
	* pip 20.3 release
		* Release blockers/things we need to do first [basically all Pradyun]: (PG: wheeeeeeee)
			* 7744 -- small, needs implementation.
			* 9011 -- needs a test.
			* 9040 -- needs re-review and merge.
			* 8785 -- needs a deeper dive.
			* 8495 -- needs implementation.
		* people offer help - what would be most effective is some virtual coworking time
			* Bernard is free to do this all Thurs, plus Fri morning
			* TODO: This time tomorrow would be ideal!