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* How do you install a package that does not provide an installer most of the time ? (one answer) >> in this question, does "installer" mean setup.py or some other facility? << |
* How do you install a package that does not provide an standalone installer (not setup.py) most of the time ? (one answer) |
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3. What are "namespaced packages"? >> seriously, you want to know if there is a feature that people don't know about << |
Part 1, how do you work ?
- Who are you ? (describe in a few sentence what do you do with Python)
<open question>
- How do you organize your application code most of the time ? (one answer)
- I put everything in one package
- I create several packages and use a main package or script to launch the application
- I create several packages and use a tool like zc.buildout or Paver to distribute the whole application
- I use my own mechanism for aggregating packages into a single install.
- What is the main tool or combination of tools you are using to package and distribute your Python application ? (one answer)
- None
- distutils
- setuptools
- zc.buildout and setuptools
- zc.buildout and distutils
- Paver and distutils
- Paver and setuptools
Other : <say which>
- How do you install a package that does not provide an standalone installer (not setup.py) most of the time ? (one answer)
- I use easy_install
- I use pip
- I download it and run manually the install command
- I use the packaging tool provided in my system (apt, yum, etc)
Other : <say which>
- How do you remove a package ? (one answer)
- manually, by removing the folder and fixing the .pth files
- using the packaging tool (apt, yum, etc)
- I use one virtualenv per application, so the main python is never polluted
- I change PYTHONPATH to include a directory of the packages used by my application, then remove just that directory
- Do you work with setuptools' namespaced packages ? A namespace package is a package that may be split across multiple
- project distributions. For example, Zope 3's zope package is a namespace package, because subpackages like zope.interface
and zope.publisher may be distributed separately (see http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools)(one answer)
- Yes
- No
- project distributions. For example, Zope 3's zope package is a namespace package, because subpackages like zope.interface
- Did PyPI became mandatory in your everyday work (if you use zc.buildout for exampel) ? (one answer)
- Yes
- No
- If you previously answered Yes, did you set up an alternative solution (mirror, cache..) in case PyPI is down ? (one answer)
- Yes
- No
- Do you register your packages to PyPI ? (one answer)
- Yes
- No
- Do you upload your package to PyPI ? (one answer)
- Yes
- No
- If you previously answered No, how do you distribute your packages ? (one answer)
- One my own website, using simple links
- One my own website, using a PyPI-like server
- On a forge, like sourceforge
- Where are you located ?
<open question>
Part 2, What's missing ? What is wrong ?
- What are in your opinion, the 5 most important problems (bad behaviors or lacks) in Distutils today ?
<open question>
- Would you like to see Python's Distutils package provide an uninstall command that removes just the files installed, and cleanup the .pth, even if it does undesirable things ? (one answer)
- Yes
- No
- Would you like to see Python's Distutils package provide an uninstall command that correctly removes the files installed by a package (without taking care of possible side-effect) **effects ti be listed here** ? (one answer)
- Yes
- No
- What are the 5 most important features that exists in third-party tools, you would like to see included by the Python standard Library ?
<open question>
- What are the other things you like to say in order to help building Distutils roadmap ?
<open question>